I rarely visit manboobz’ blog since the “big debate” has ended because it’s apparent he’s just a mentally challenged radical feminist like any other. Usually I don’t use such language but after posts like this I feel compelled to… He found a feminist study saying that it’s non-feminists who hate men, not feminists. Any living being with an IQ higher than a potato’s knows that is bullshit, but he takes this retardedness seriously. The ultimate irony is that if it were true, it would mean that feminists are reeeeealy stupid since they view men as oppressors of women, thus implying they love men (ie. their “oppressors”) more than normal people love men. In other words, when an average women becomes a feminist and learns the bullshit that men oppress women she immediately starts liking men more. Oh yeah.
So, Futrelle is a braindead feminist like any other, that much is clear. He keeps on coming up with shit everybody knows are lies but even if they were true they would mean bad news for feminists. Enough said about this.
The thing which caught my attention is one of his pieces titled The Worst of the MRM. In it he gathers some quotes from different articles from the MRM (more or less). I’ve decided to look at the articles he chose and decide what’s what.
“Let’s start with Paul Elam’s charming “Bash A Violent Bitch Month” Post“
As I understand things Elam’s article basically says this: There are obnoxious bitches out there who feel entitled to slap a man across his face for whatever reason they see fit and demand that no ‘retribution’ is initiated. These bitches would deserve a punch in the face, and it would probably teach them an important lesson too – but guys, please don’t do it because the police will arrest you.
What’s the problem with this article? Nothing, really. First of all, Elam has some insightful observations about the nature of women in our contemporary cultures. Then he proves that he has a working sense of justice, and after that he shows that he knows the laws well and gives good advice to the men out there listening to him.
Is it really “the worst of the MRM”? Because if it is, we have nothing to be ashamed of.
“Another by Elam: Jury Duty at a Rape Trial? Acquit!“
Of course at face value this article might seem “odd”. But if one reads through it, Elam properly justifies his POV. The system is biased against men, and in the spirit of Blackstone’s formulation we ought to help them. This article does not contain any misogyny, any bigotry or whatever. It’s a logical and articulate reasoning against a flaw in the justice system.
I still feel like I don’t need to feel ashamed if this is the worst of the MRM.
“This post from Roy Den Hollander”
Manboobz “skillfully” cuts the quote where the risky stuff ends and he “forgets to mention” that Hollander cites the Declaration of Independence, proving that his words about firearms are not meant to incite violence against women. Hollander’s point is described by the Declaration of Independence:
“[W]hen a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”
Does Futrelle have a problem with the Declaration of Independence?
Next stop is Roissy, who is not a part of the MRM. He’s not a men’s rights advocate by any means. That MRAs often visit his site for advice on game does not mean that he’s an MRA.
“here’s a post from Citizen Renegade, a Pick-Up Artist (PUA) site popular with MRAs: Game Can Save Lives“
In this article Roissy theorizes that if Sodini had learned game he wouldn’t have reached the point of no return mentally. What’s wrong with this article? Nothing. How is this “the worst of the MRM”, not even considering it’s not from the MRM? How is this article the worst of anything?
If we look at the selected comments at amptoon’s, it’s still a mixed bag. Yes, there are some wackos out there, but do notice that they are not representative of the MRM by any means. (And I have to remind feminists again that Roissy’s is not an MRA site.) All we’ve found out is that Roissy have some commenters who think that western culture and western laws are so misandric that it’s understandable if a few men go berserk. And all the alarmists scared shitless can ease up because these types of comments are downrated at real MRA sites faster than you can say “all sex is rape”.
Is this the worst of the MRM? It was not even the MRM. But even if it were, we’d still be floating. I have seen lot worse at feminist sites.
“Another from Citizen Renegade: Owning a Dog is Training for Owning a Woman“
Oh, the horror… Let me just answer with one link – well, three, actually. As long as we have real books in print titled “How to Make Your Man Behave in 21 Days or Less Using the Secrets of Professional Dog Trainers” I feel more than amply justified to answer with a simple “fuck you” to these whiny feminists.
Is this the worst of the MRM? The feminists have surpassed this by far. (And Roissy is still not an MRA.)
“MRA Jay Hammers, a regular contributor to The Spearhead, (…) Age of Consent is Misandry“
It’s a controversial topic.
But hey, what’ this?
“This post did get some criticism in the MRM.”
Manboobz admits this much. What’s the problem then, really? We have controversies. If someone or some topic is too radical we tend to recognize that and act accordingly. Manboobz unintentionally showed that the MRM is not the radical misogynyst club the feminists want others to believe it to be.
“And here’s Hammers again, accusing other MRAs of being “pansies.” “
Infighting in the MRM… How is that against feminists? How does that prove anything negative about MRAs? This is only proof that the MRM does weed out radicals, unlike the feminist movement, which weeds out moderates.
“(…) Schopenbecq, who is equally obsessed with the age of consent and what he sees as the superior attractiveness of teen girls. Here’s one of his posts on the subject“
So he thinks the age of consent should be 14 instead of 16. His post is well-written, he cites sources and he has arguments going for him. What’s the problem with his post? Nothing. If a feminist thinks the age of consent should be higher than 14 then they have a debate at hand, but disagreeing on something is not reason to dismiss your opponent with dubious accusations like “it’s the worst of the MRM”.
Is this the worst of the MRM? Somehow I still don’t feel ashamed.
“In this post, he mocks any man who doesn’t think Heather Locklear’s 13-year-old daughter is hotter than Locklear herself”
Actually he doesn’t mock anybody. Go there and read it. Futrelle is intentionally misinterpreting Schopenbecq’s words – a well-known feat of feminists and other assorted leftist radicals. But even if he would mock anybody, if this is the worst of the MRM we’re still thousands of lightyears ahead of feminists.
“Here, he argues that feminism is a “Sexual Trade Union”"
Oh well, he argues. He’s entitled to have his opinion, isn’t he? And come to think of it, isn’t feminism a sexual trade union? It is. So, what’s the big fuss about it? Does feminism represent anything other than the interest of women? It was a rhetorical question.
“More misogyny: Anglobitch: Women, Self Awareness and the Guillotine of Bitterness“
So, an observation that women tend to overestimate their talents thanks to the constant feminist grrrl-power mantra is misogyny? Anglobitch did not say that this happens to each and every women in the USA, but you can rest assured it happens to many, so technically the observation is spot on. It’s not PC but it’s true.
“Heretical Sex: Never Date Western Women“
Should you date western women? Must you? Feminists come up with misandric laws like IMBRA (another sign of them being a sexual trade union) just to force men to date them, but it seems it doesn’t work. If men think that western women are intolerable maybe they’re right. We’ve all heard the retarded slogan about fishes and bicycles…
“Henry Makow has gotten too loopy for most Men’s Rights activists to consider him as one of their own.”
How come his name shows up here, then? I thought this article was about the MRM and Makow is clearly not part of it.
“Here are some quotes from his classic in craziness How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered Women.”
[I've fixed the link he f*cked up.]
Actually this is not so crazy. You don’t believe it, that’s fine, but show me why this is soooo unacceptable. He states lots of things: some of them obvious, some of them researchable. But it’s not so radical.
…and again and again I have to ask, why they are mentioned here, then? I thought we were talking about the MRM, not people thrown out of it for being radicals.
“this classic, from “ramzpaul” on The Spearhead: How Female Suffrage Destroyed Western Civilization“
There are valid arguments supporting his claim. It’s not PC, sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s automatically wrong. Since we MRAs tend to know that PC was invented by the Frankfurt School as a marxist tool for mass thought control we’re not really giving a damn if some of our ideas are not perfectly in line with it.
Now, assuimng these are “the worst” of the MRM, let’s compare them to the worst of the feminist movement. Well, uh, we can’t. Not one item on manboobz’ list is actually comparable to this:
“Sally Miller Gearhart, in her article “The Future—If There Is One—Is Female” writes: “At least three further requirements supplement the strategies of environmentalists if we were to create and preserve a less violent world. 1) Every culture must begin to affirm the female future. 2) Species responsibility must be returned to women in every culture. 3) The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately ten percent of the human race.” What do you think about this statement?”
“If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males. People are afraid to say that kind of stuff anymore.” Mary Daly
Manboobz, if that’s the best (worst) you can come up with, you might as well forget writing about the MRM altogether.